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ScaledDaturaScaledDatura 23 Sep 2020 14:27
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Honestly, I had thought you did. And sorry for the late response, I was taking a break from writing.
But after reading what you wrote I think there isn't a more perfect ending. If you wanna go ahead and publish it I'm fully behind you.


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by ScaledDaturaScaledDatura, 23 Sep 2020 14:27

You thought I had forgotten this project, didn't you?

I think I have successfully found an end. If you have nothing more to add, I will finalize this version and publish it.


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by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 15 Sep 2020 03:06

CC0 is always ok. Attribution is only used to check that it is indeed CC0.
With CC 3.0 by-sa you need to name the source and author (if the source is outside the CI ecosystem).
And CC 4.0 by-sa can be used if you put the whole thing under 4.0, but people operating on CC 3.0 by-sa can no longer use the article until they to switch to 4.0.
There is the option to dual license the piece with the 4.0 Picture and the text under 4.0 and just the text under 3.0 thus preventing the "others cant use it" problem.

I hereby license the article and the picture under CC 4.0 BY-SA.
Author of the picture is [Name of Author of the Picture].
Picture taken from [link to source].

I hereby license the text of this article without the picture under CC 3.0 BY-SA.

~ Not officially formalised

I would just like to keep everything nice and legal, now that I am on admin staff. *honk, honk*


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Re: License by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 23 Jul 2020 21:16

I've never really paid much attention to image licenses. It wasn't very severally enforced back in the day, so I didn't think it mattered since we don't make a profit from them.

Come to think of it, my previous Items will probably need to be stripped of their images as well.

Okay so CC0 and CC3 are what's accepted, right?


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Re: License by QuispyQueemsQuispyQueems, 23 Jul 2020 20:50

2 of 3 licenses incompatible.

4.0 and 2.0 in the mix.

*honk*


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Re: License by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 23 Jul 2020 15:24

the headgear wasn't going to be used, it was reference silly goose


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Re: License by QuispyQueemsQuispyQueems, 23 Jul 2020 04:48

The book is a "CC BY-NC 2.0" and therefore incompatible with CC 3.0 BY-SA. That image with the headgear is from a famous movie and therefor probably not compatible as well.


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License by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 22 Jul 2020 19:40

You must have misunderstood.

I am not going for canonicity, but for character consistency. Tell me why a man that fears for his life to the point of checking, stealing and fortify a corps would ever consider his death an option and I would go with you. That would make for interesting character development.

This story builds all involved characters up. By the point the grandmother gets into the house we know the characters. Wouldn't you agree?

This comes with specific expectations. The twist you have written is actually quite brilliant if you or me can execute on the things I proposed above. The victory of the fear agent and Winzlows demise would make for a story with the moral of "Stick to your own guns and don't turn your back on anyone you relay on."

Winzlow would have lost a game he thought he could win up to the second he lost. Feribald would think he was helping while making things worse, as prophesied by Winzlow in the very beginning. He is now in the situation Winzlow prophesied as well. Quot: "That was the difference between doctors and field agents. The doctors usually only have to see the beasts once they are in a cage."

Tragic, but not uncompelling.

One would think that the doctor cant come out kicking of this, but should Willy actually be incapable of killing outside of shock or pain, than the death of Winzlow and his own stubbornness would guarantee his survival in this situation.


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by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 20 Jun 2020 20:13
ScaledDaturaScaledDatura 20 Jun 2020 03:59
in discussion General / Per page discussions » Dropdown 06 7tz

Feel free to change anything for the sake of canonicity. I wanted to check what I wrote by you first, hence why it took me a good two weeks to write 6 or 7 paragraphs.


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I don't know why, but it works.

by ScaledDaturaScaledDatura, 20 Jun 2020 03:59

to have him kill Winzlow. After all, it is more so a dream than a hallucination.

Yeah, not so much. You might have actually just killed him, since the realm of the fear agent, in my design, works more like a demi-plane (or parallel realty).

So if Anthony kills Winzlow, he could wake up in the real world and do something to stop Willy.

Or he could just be dead and I am sure Winzlow knew this.

Willy became the agent that turned on the Insurgency, because that was Winzlows greatest fear, as it was one of only a few things that had a likelihood of happening and a high potential to cause serious damage to the Insurgency. Willy has some form of memory of fears he previously copied, if that form was effective for him and believe me, full agent training is something he will remember.

"Ok, that" He pointed at his grandmother "is my grandmother. She is my worst fear. Are you following me?" He sent another glance at the horrid creature morphing in front of his eyes before checking the Doctors confirming nod. "Good, I need you to kill me."

I am currently rationalizing this. Winzlow would not tell anyone this, let alone someone in the Insurgency. He is to paranoid about blackmail regarding his past.

She is my worst fear.

That is a flat out lie. She is his worst irrational fear. But the doctor does not know that, and I am sure even Willy does not know this. Winzlow would priorities his rational fears over his irrational ones when it would come to his fear ranking.

"Good, I need you to kill me."

This is not a normal option in Winzlows tool-set. Even if the only possible escape would be death, he would just stay. Winzlow had not feared death in the line of service, but he still feared death and in a state where he knew that he was not master of his senses, he would not even consider the option to end his life while his head was not 100% clear.

You might not have realized what you have done, but in having Feribald kill Winzlow, you actually made Winzlows worst fear come true.

  1. He was killed by an insurgent, check
  2. the doctors rash actions endangered Insurgency assets, check
  3. his own death in a place far outside his control, check
  4. he could have not done anything to stop it, check
  5. someone he had trusted his back to beat him to death for it, thus validating his paranoia, check.

I am pretty sure that the Winzlow that said all these things was Willy. The real Winzlow was still there, but had actually, after standing up, not taken his eyes of his grandmother and had not said anything. The last words he heard were

"What?! Never mind."

Also, the same guy (Willy) who wants to keep it realistic, suddenly springing this

he stood in a large stone room surrounded by some rather vicious looking sleestaks.

I think with Winzlows death Willy lost the connection to realism. Winzlow would have scrutinized the hell out of sudden transportation and a shift in scenario so drastic, it would have broken his suspension of disbelieve.

Feribald on the other hand takes this for real as indicated by his single word assessment of the situation.

Let me just say that yes, if this blow had the intention to kill him, Winzlow is dead as a brick right now. He had not planed on it and was caught completely off-guard. Feribald has the muscle mass and accuracy to pull it off, too.

Perhaps this little ploy actually revealed something about Willys week point. He can not kill by means other than shock and maybe pain. Meaning that if you are not scared to death by him, you live as long as Willy can not make someone else kill you for him.

I have to think on this for a while. Nothing is actually set in stone right now.

EDIT: That moment the fear agent realized he could just ask Feribald to kill Winzlow and have it actually work and than it actually works.


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by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 18 Jun 2020 02:07
ScaledDaturaScaledDatura 16 Jun 2020 05:57
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Actually, I had been working around the "kill the hallucination" problem already. My plan was to, instead of having the doctor kill willy, to have him kill Winzlow. After all, it is more so a dream than a hallucination. Otherwise they would have choked on dust while walking to the cabin. So if Anthony kills Winzlow, he could wake up in the real world and do something to stop Willy. I will post what I have so far when I'm done typing this.

As for how Willy ended up in the package, I would need to know if willy was the person you where talking about when you said

A field agent, that turned on the CI and got away with it.

And the last thing I want to say is that Winzlows reaction to his grandmother felt on par with most phobias. For example, I used to have a huge fear of dolls. So much so that if I was alone in a room with a doll in it, I would become paralyzed with fear. Much like how Winzlow is when he heard his grandmother coming.


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I don't know why, but it works.

by ScaledDaturaScaledDatura, 16 Jun 2020 05:57

The more I thought about this the less it felt right. If I let the fear agent go down to easily that caps his power a bit to low for my liking. A "we got out" ending also reduces the possibility of a followup.

My current challenge is to get the two out of there without them outright defeating Willy. The fear agent is supposed to be strong enough to "accidentally" take out en entire base.

Also, giving a hallucination a punch to the face should not be an effective way of getting rid of him. Sadly i don't think that there is a way to let the two escape without exposing some ability breaking bug in Willy. This bug is probably the reason someone got him in the box in the first place. It is something that has to make his abilities more specific, therefor less applicable. This does not mean to make Willy weak, it just means he is not a surefire base-cracker.

The question thus is: How did the guy end up in a package?


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by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 15 Jun 2020 22:10
ScaledDaturaScaledDatura 30 May 2020 19:54
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I'm down with that.
I am looking forward to what you write,


I try and carry a tarot pack with me wherever I go.
I don't know why, but it works.

by ScaledDaturaScaledDatura, 30 May 2020 19:54

I imagined her more like an abusive woman that blamed her grand-kid for everything. A fact that was made worse with her recurring leaps in memory. Winzlows parents saw her as a helpless, old lady and Winzlow as someone who got himself into fights, which he lost and than blamed his bruises and cuts on his grandmother.

Eventually it got so bad that Winzlow just leaved, following a particularly ugly beating.

He wondered the streets for weeks before the police caught him. He had developed the paranoia to stay under the radar of everyone. The Insurgency broke him out for those talents (breaking a kid out of police custody just means forging some papers and claiming to be his relatives).

Winzlow was with the Insurgency when he received the news that his grandmother had died (car accident after she had forgotten where she was while crossing a road). He could not believe it for a while and he did not go back to check.

Eventually his paranoia that she could still be alive and haunting him got so bad he tried to dig her up, but he could not verify her death, since she had been cremated.

That was almost 25 years ago. She was dead, but he was never sure. He had seen crazier things while working for the Insurgency, than an old hag rising from the grave to haunt her grandchild.


But I can just put this exposition into the story, save for very near the end when the doctor asks what was up with that woman and even then Winzlow would most likely just keep his mouth shut.


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by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 27 May 2020 18:55
ScaledDaturaScaledDatura 25 May 2020 05:41
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I like that idea.
The only thing I feel like we should also work out is the grandmother's backstory. Did she die in a tragic way? Was she a badass person in life? Does she have any connection to the insurgency?

Honestly, I was worried I took it a step too far (probably still did) and you didn't want to deal with what I put,


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I don't know why, but it works.

by ScaledDaturaScaledDatura, 25 May 2020 05:41

I found it. I am not 100% sure about my solution, but i think it gets it done. The problem with the dashed lines and this color is that the dashed line would look almost invisible. It works with brighter colors, like orange and red, but not with this one.


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by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 24 May 2020 17:38

Not a problem.

I am currently contemplating how to curve this into a proper landing.

My current idea for an ending sees Willy taking the form of an even deeper fear from Winzlow, his grandmother. Since this form does not affect Dr. Feribald he beats Willy unconscious and they wake up covered in sand, with the only content of the box being a dried, purple flower, that started to regain vitality before one of them snaps the box shut.

I don't want to make decisions regarding a end to story without first discussing it.


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by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 22 May 2020 22:01

Thank you.

Say, do you know which elements the new "Headlines" for the sidebar are? My theme does not seem to apply to them. The new orange throws the theme off quite a bit.

I will go hunting for that problem later, but if you have a fix just laying around I would appreciate it.


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by Meta WonderratMeta Wonderrat, 22 May 2020 21:52

You can try using this code to use your own tagline:

#header h2 {
    visibility: hidden;
}

#header h2::before {
    visibility: visible;
    color: white;
    content: 'Problems Force Solutions and Solutions Force Problems';
}

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by DrCaduceusDrCaduceus, 21 May 2020 09:44
ScaledDaturaScaledDatura 18 May 2020 04:21
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I am so fucking sorry, that was a complete mistake. I thought I had gotten all my mistakes, but that one fucking comma left you hanging. Damn, sorry,


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I don't know why, but it works.

by ScaledDaturaScaledDatura, 18 May 2020 04:21
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